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Dec 11 2010

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  • 23 May 2016: Heal Us, Emmanuel – Greg Ward & Irwyn Ince – The majority of Christians believe we’re made in the image of God and we’re all created equal. But most American Christians don’t have any significant interracial relationships, and that can cut the legs off our work for justice. At the very least it leaves us tone deaf to people who don’t look like us. Join Rev. Greg Ward and Rev. Irwyin Ince on Steve Brown, Etc. as they discuss the book to which they contributed, Heal Us, Emmanuel: A Call for Racial Reconciliation, Representation, and Unity in the Church.
  • 16 May 2016: The Seed: A True Myth – Erik Guzman – We’re all running scared from the shadow. It haunts our pasts and drives us to build labyrinths to protect ourselves from its pull. But wall building has taken its toll, leaving us exhausted, crazy, and trapped within prisons of our own creation. Only true Love can set us free. Join our producer and friend, Erik Guzman, on Steve Brown, Etc. as he discusses his new book, The Seed: A True Myth. Perfect Love really does cast out fear… and offers new life within the Love Fractal. Erik is Executive Producer and Vice President of Communications at Key Life Network. He’s also the author of The Gift of Addiction: How God Redeems Our Pain.
  • 9 May 2016: Hidden Agendas – Dr. Steve Brown – We all have a secret plan to get from where we are to where we want to be. We wear masks to further our hidden agendas, but it leaves us feeling phony, ashamed, guilty, and afraid.  There is a better way. Join Steve Brown on Steve Brown, Etc. for a discussion of his new book, Hidden Agendas: Dropping the Masks that Keep Us Apart. You’ll see that there’s so much more to life than hiding, pretending, and never being loved as we truly are. Steve Brown is a cynical old preacher, author, speaker, seminary professor, and the founder of Key Life Network.
  • 2 May 2016: Steve Brown, Etc. Grace Party! – Live music, comedy, sick talent—you don’t have to wait for the Key Life Grace Party on May 20th! Steve and the crew will bring the party to you. Join Buddy Greene, Charlie and Ruth Jones, and Josh Bales on Steve Brown, Etc. for in-studio performances and discussion about the radically freeing message of God’s grace. Then keep the grace party poppin’ in person—May 20th at Willow Creek Church in Winter Springs, Florida—as we celebrate the launch of Steve Brown’s new book, Hidden Agendas: Dropping the Masks that Keep Us Apart, and our Executive Producer Erik Guzman’s first book, The Seed: A True Myth. It’s all FREE! Click here for details. This Week’s Guests Buddy Greene is a Nashville recording artist best known for the perennially popular song, “Mary, Did You Know?” Check out his new album, Someday, at Charlie and Ruth Jones are the community creatives behind City 616 and Greensboro Grub in Greensboro, North Carolina. Visit to be inspired. Josh Bales is a pastor, counselor, and singer/songwriter with four albums and more than ten years touring under his belt. Connect with him at
  • 25 April 2016: The Justice Calling – Bethany Hoang & Kristen Deede Johnson – God loves justice because God is love. He hears the cries of his children and calls us to stop sex trafficking, labor slavery, and extreme poverty. But joining God in his work of setting things right in the world requires divine strength that we simply can’t conjure. Join Bethany Hanke Hoang and Kristen Deede Johnson on Steve Brown, Etc. as they discuss their book, The Justice Calling: Where Passion Meets Perseverance. Sustainable passion for justice comes from knowing God’s passion for sinners and sufferers like us. Bethany Hoang engages leaders around the world with the critical connection between justice and spiritual formation. She advises and regularly speaks on behalf of the Institute for Biblical Justice for International Justice Mission, a global organization that protects the poor from violence. Hoang was named among “50 Women to Watch” by Christianity Today and one of “20 Women to Watch” by Catalyst. Kristen Deede Johnson is associate professor of theology and Christian formation at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan. She teaches and writes in the areas of theology, culture, formation, and political theory.
  • 18 April 2016: Healing the Wounded Heart – Dan Allender – When it comes to healing from the trauma of sexual abuse, there are no easy answers, but there is hope. Join Dr. Dan Allender on Steve Brown, Etc. for a discussion of his new book, Healing the Wounded Heart: The Heartache of Sexual Abuse and the Hope of Transformation. If you have suffered sexual harm, you can dare to believe that evil doesn’t get the last word. For over 25 years, Dr. Dan Allender has helped hundreds of thousands of victims of sexual abuse. He’s professor of counseling psychology and former president of The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology in Seattle, Washington. He travels and speaks extensively on sexual abuse recovery, love and forgiveness, worship, and other related topics. He is also the author of 15 books, including The Wounded Heart, and coauthor of God Loves Sex.
  • 11 April 2016: Ask the Question – Stephen Mansfield – Tony Campolo often says, “Mixing religion and politics is like mixing ice cream and horse manure. It doesn’t do much to the manure, but it sure does ruin the ice cream.” That’s not entirely true. The religious beliefs of politicians have a direct impact on the policies they promote. Voters deserve to know what candidates believe. Join Stephen Mansfield on Steve Brown, Etc. for a discussion of his book Ask the Question: Why We Must Demand Religious Clarity from Our Presidential Candidates.  Stephen Mansfield is The New York Times bestselling author of The Faith of George W. Bush, The Faith of Barack Obama, Lincoln’s Battle with God, and more. He’s the founder of The Mansfield Group, an in-demand speaker, and consultant.
  • 4 April 2016: Show Them Jesus – Jack Klumpenhower – Millions of church kids grow up and abandon the faith. You ever think maybe they’re leaving because they never heard the gospel? Join children’s ministry specialist Jack Klumpenhower on Steve Brown, Etc. for a discussion of his book Show them Jesus: Teaching the Gospel to Kids. You’ll see the problem with Sunday school lessons based on what children should do for God instead of what he has done for them, and how God’s love in Jesus captures hearts and leads to a living, loving faith. With over 30 years of experience as a Bible teacher and children’s ministry curriculum writer, Jack Klumpenhower has created Bible lessons and taught children about Jesus at churches, camps, clubs, conferences, and Christian schools all over the world.
  • 28 March 2016: Sinners, Sufferers & Grace – At Key Life, we believe that the deepest message of the ministry of Jesus and the Bible is the radical grace of God to sinners and sufferers. That means when you run to Jesus, no matter what you’ve done or what you’re going through, you can be sure that God’s not mad at you. This week on Steve Brown, Etc., join Steve and the crew as they apply that healing biblical truth to where it hurts most.  Then get more on radical grace and how it applies practically to guilt, suffering, doubt, and addiction in four new minibooks by Steve and Erik. Click here to get all four for only $12!
  • 21 March 2016: Forgiving My Daughter’s Killer – Kate Grosmaire – Could you forgive your daughter’s killer, even going so far as working to get him a lighter sentence? That’s exactly what Kate and Andy Grosmaire did when their daughter Ann was shot by her boyfriend Conor. Join Kate Grosmaire on Steve Brown, Etc. to hear the story of supernatural forgiveness and restorative justice that’s told in her book, Forgiving My Daughter’s Killer: A True Story of Loss, Faith, and Unexpected Grace. It’s a rare journey onto holy ground as we move into Holy Week. Kate and Andy Grosmaire are the cofounders of the Ann Grosmaire “Be The Change” Fund, a charitable fund to promote forgiveness and restorative justice practices.
  • 14 March 2016: Good Faith – David Kinnaman & Gabe Lyons – Christianity and cultural change; how can we hold onto our convictions while compassionately confronting contentious issues? Get this wrong and the consequences for the church and our country could be catastrophic. Is it already too late? Join David Kinnaman and Gabe Lyons on Steve Brown, Etc. for a discussion of their new book, Good Faith: Being a Christian When Society Thinks You’re Irrelevant and Extreme. David Kinnaman and Gabe Lyons co-authored the best-seller, unChristian. Kinnaman is president of the research and communications company, the Barna Group. Lyons is the founder of Q, a learning community that helps Christians advance good in society.
  • 7 March 2016: America’s Original Sin – Jim Wallis – As Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. pointed out, 11:00 on Sunday morning is still the most segregated hour in America. Can the church really lead the way to overcoming the deep racial divide that still exists in our country? Join Jim Wallis on Steve Brown, Etc. for a discussion of his new book, America’s Original Sin: Racism, White Privilege, and the Bridge to a New America. With all of our failings, God’s unconditional love and grace compels the church to live out the reconciliation we preach. Jim Wallis is an author, activist, pastor, and the president of Sojourners. He’s also the editor-in-chief of Sojourners magazine. Go to to get the resources Jim mentioned on this program.
  • 29 February 2016: Wholeheartedness – Dr. Chuck DeGroat – Here’s a tough pill to swallow: Underneath all your busyness and exhaustion is the fear that you’re too fatally flawed to pull it all off. The toxin of shame drives you to prove to yourself and the world that you have what it takes. Then, frenzied and pulled in a thousand different directions, you look for rest and peace in all the wrong places. Sorry, but your new time management app ain’t gonna fix that mess. You need wholeheartedness. Join Dr. Chuck DeGroat on Steve Brown, Etc. for a discussion of his new book Wholeheartedness: Busyness, Exhaustion, and Healing the Divided Self. What if finding the rest and peace we long for is as easy as failing and falling into wholeness? Dr. DeGroat is associate professor of pastoral care and counseling at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan. He’s also the author of Toughest People to Love and Leaving Egypt: Finding God in the Wilderness Places. P.S. Click here to read what SBE producer, Erik Guzman, wrote about Wholeheartedness.
  • 22 February 2016: People to Be Loved – Preston Sprinkle (Re-Air) – The deepest message of the Bible is God’s unconditional love for sinners and sufferers. It’s all about radical grace. But how do we reconcile that with the Bible’s prohibition of homosexuality? Join Dr. Preston Sprinkle on Steve Brown, Etc. for a discussion of his new book, People to Be Loved: Why Homosexuality Is Not Just an Issue. Scripture challenges everyone to humbly accept what it has to say about how we love one another in light of God’s love for us. Also, don’t miss Preston’s post, Jesus, Homosexuality, and Scandalous Grace. Preston Sprinkle earned his PhD in New Testament from Aberdeen University in Scotland. He’s the Vice President for Eternity Bible College’s Boise campus and the author of numerous books including the New York Times best-seller Erasing Hell, which he co-wrote with Francis Chan.
  • 15 February 2016: Moving Mountains – John Eldredge – Steve Brown often says that unbelievers don’t pray because they’re scared God might be there. And believers don’t pray because they’re scared he might not. Even if he is there and he is listening, do our prayers really make a difference to a sovereign God? Join New York Times bestselling author, John Eldredge, on Steve Brown, Etc. for a discussion of his new book, Moving Mountains: Praying with Passion, Confidence, and Authority. What if our prayers really can move God’s heart… and the mountains in our way? In addition to being a wildly successful author, John Eldredge is a counselor, teacher, and president of Ransomed Heart Ministries. Find out more at
  • 8 February 2016: Lessons in Belonging – Erin Lane – “The thing I am most desperate to keep you from finding out about me is… I want to belong, but I don’t know how.” In that confession, Erin Lane gives voice to the longing of every human heart. We all know that it can be brutally hard to find a sense of belonging, especially at church, but what do we do with this deep desire that is so often denied? Join Erin S. Lane on Steve Brown, Etc. for a discussion of her book, Lessons in Belonging from a Church-Going Commitment Phobe. Whether you’re a millennial who expresses her relationship to church with the word “none,” or a pastor wondering where everyone went, don’t miss this one. Erin Lane works for the Seattle-based nonprofit Center for Courage & Renewal as an assistant program director for clergy and congregational leader programs. She has a master of theological studies degree from Duke and is coeditor of Talking Taboo. Connect with Erin at 
  • 1 February 2016: Law, Gospel… and Movies – Dave Zahl – It’s a real problem when Dave Zahl from Mockingbird agrees to be on your talk show: he’s so enjoyable to talk to about so many things. Steve wanted to talk about law and gospel. The rest of the crew wanted to talk about movies. We tried to do both, but… well, take a listen for yourself. (Like C-3PO said, “Let the Wookiee win.”) Join Dave Zahl on Steve Brown, Etc. for a discussion of the Mockingbird books Law and Gospel: A Theology for Sinners (and Saints) and Mockingbird at the Movies. It’s mostly theology talk with a segment on movies thrown in, but it’s all freeing and fun. Dave Zahl is the director of Mockingbird Ministries and editor-in-chief of the Mockingbird blog. Don’t miss the 9th annual Mockingbird conference, April 14-16 in New York City. Click here for details.
  • 25 January 2016: Awe – Paul Tripp – Most Christians think our biggest problem is with keeping God’s Law. If we could just follow the rules, God would be happy with us and our lives would be blessed. I mean, what would Jesus do? But Paul Tripp says we don’t have a Law problem, we have an awe problem. Join Paul Tripp on Steve Brown, Etc. for a quite deliberate discussion of his new book Awe: Why It Matters for Everything We Think, Say, and Do. You’ll see that nothing makes us stand in awe like God’s unconditional love for the unlovely. Paul Tripp is a pastor, best-selling author, popular speaker, and the president of Paul Tripp Ministries. Connect with him at
  • 18 January 2016: A Family Apart – Craig A. Steffen – Craig Steffen knew his mother abandoned him and disappeared in the family car never to be seen again. He knew his father was gone too. He knew he was adopted. But he didn’t know much more until his adoptive parents died and, for the first time, he felt free to dig into his family’s past. Join Craig on Steve Brown, Etc. as he talks about uncovering tragedy, injustice, and murder in his personal history, and how finding his identity as a beloved son of God has helped him to heal. Craig Steffen is an entrepreneur, educator, and the author of A Family Apart: Sleuthing the Mysteries of Abandonment, Adoption and DNA.
  • 11 January 2016: Christ Hold Fast – Elyse Fitzpatrick & Dan Price – You’ve probably played a game of telephone before. Start with a room full of people. One person whispers a message to the next, and so on, until the last person announces the message to the group. Often, things have been lost and distorted along the way. You ever wonder if something like that has happened to the good news of Jesus? Join Elyse Fitzpatrick and Daniel Emery Price from on Steve Brown, Etc. for some freeing gospel clarity. Then join them, Steve Brown, and a bunch of radical gracers at the Christ Hold Fast Conference for more! Elyse Fitzpatrick is a popular speaker and author of a bunch of books, including the soon-to-be-released Home: How Heaven and the New Earth Satisfy Our Deepest Longing. Dan Price is the head honcho at Christ Hold Fast, a pastor, and the author of the upcoming book Scandalous Stories: A Sort-Of Commentary on Parables.
  • 4 January 2016: You’re Gonna Suffer… Happy New Year! – What’s up with all the heavy stuff in Key Life’s top 10 posts from 2015? Well, the truth is that our sin and suffering open the door to a realization of God’s unconditional love. It sucks, but it’s true. Let’s talk. Join the crew from Steve Brown, Etc.* for a program that’s two parts navel gazing, three parts self-promotion, and the rest of the parts an honest reflection on grief, pain, and God’s radical grace. *This would have been the first Steve Brown, Etc. of 2016, but Steve went on vacation. That means this is just Etcetera: Erik, Cathy, Justin, Zach… and maybe Sally Lloyd-Jones.
  • 28 December 2015: Who Was Adam? – Dr. Fazale Rana – Who was Adam? Your answer to that question will determine how you answer the next one: Who are you? Join biochemist Dr. Fazale Rana from Reasons to Believe (RTB) on Steve Brown, Etc. as we discuss RTB’s scientifically testable creation model for human origins. Can genetics and paleoanthropology give us hope that we’re actually beloved children of God instead of cosmic accidents? Along with astrophysicist Dr. Hugh Ross, Dr. Fazale (Fuz) Rana is the co-author of Who Was Adam?: A Creation Model Approach to the Origin of Humanity. He writes and speaks extensively about the evidence for creation emerging from biochemistry, genetics, human origins, and synthetic biology. As vice president of research and apologetics at RTB, Fuz is dedicated to communicating to skeptics and believers alike the powerful scientific case for God’s existence and the Bible’s reliability.
  • 21 December 2015: SBE Christmas Special – Are your Christmas traditions becoming a burden? It happens. What starts out as a life-giving reminder of God’s love can easily become yet another item on a long Christmas to-do list. Check it off and you’re one step closer to getting it all over with. There is another way. Join Steve and the crew as they talk about the love, joy, peace, and hope that comes from chucking traditions and following the fresh wind of the Christmas Spirit. From everyone here at Key Life Network and Steve Brown, Etc., Merry Christmas!
  • 14 December 2015: People to Be Loved – Preston Sprinkle – The deepest message of the Bible is God’s unconditional love for sinners and sufferers. It’s all about radical grace. But how do we reconcile that with the Bible’s prohibition of homosexuality? Join Dr. Preston Sprinkle on Steve Brown, Etc. for a discussion of his new book, People to Be Loved: Why Homosexuality Is Not Just an Issue. Scripture challenges everyone to humbly accept what it has to say about how we love one another in light of God’s love for us. Preston Sprinkle earned his PhD in New Testament from Aberdeen University in Scotland. He’s the Vice President for Eternity Bible College’s Boise campus and the author of numerous books including the New York Times best-seller Erasing Hell, which he co-wrote with Francis Chan.
  • 7 December 2015: The Reckless Love of God – Alex Early (Re-Air) – “Jesus loves you.” We’ve heard it so often that the radical truth of that simple statement has lost its power. God’s startling love has been reduced to a bumper sticker. Alex Early is here to help. Don’t miss Alex on Steve Brown, Etc. talking about his new book, The Reckless Love of God: Experiencing the Personal, Passionate Heart of the Gospel. Alex Early is a preacher, teacher, and church planter. He planted Four Corners Church in a bar, launched the Acts 29 Podcast, and founded the Acts 29 West Academy. He’s currently a doctoral student at Western Seminary. Connect with Alex at
  • 30 November 2015: Our Favorite Lib – Tony Campolo – Around here, Tony Campolo is affectionately known as Our Favorite Lib. He and Steve are on opposite ends of the political spectrum, but the differences these old friends have fade away when they start talking about Jesus.  Join Tony on Steve Brown, Etc. as he and Steve talk about Jesus as much as possible while they discuss Syrian refugees, Middle East policy, and the difference Christian service can make in the world. Truth be told, the Jesus stuff is the best part… that and watching Steve try to avoid talking about Tony’s new views on gay marriage. Visit Tony and his leftist Christian friends at Also, find out more about the Campolo Center for Ministry at and get involved!
  • 23 November 2015: Post-Traumatic Church Syndrome – Reba Riley – By the age of 29, Reba Riley lost her faith, her church, and her health. Bad religion messed her up real good. So where did she turn for help? To more religion, of course! Join Reba on Steve Brown, Etc. as she talks about her new book, Post-Traumatic Church Syndrome: A Memoir of Humor and Healing. Hear about her quest for healing by visiting thirty religions before her thirtieth birthday.  Reba Riley is a blogger, speaker, and artist. Connect with her at
  • 16 November 2015: Accidental Saints – Nadia Bolz-Weber (Re-Air) – Think of that person who you’d rather not be around. Got him or her in mind? Now Nadia Bolz-Weber has a subversive question for you: “What if that person you’ve been trying to avoid is your best shot at grace today?” Join Nadia on Steve Brown, Etc. as we discuss her new book, Accidental Saints: Finding God in All the Wrong People. God does surprising things through the least likely suspects. Nadia Bolz-Weber is a popular speaker and the author of the New York Times best-seller, Pastrix: The Cranky, Beautiful Faith of a Sinner & Saint. She’s an ordained Lutheran pastor, founder of House for All Sinners and Saints in Denver, Colorado, and the most bleeped person in the history of Steve Brown, Etc.
  • 9 November 2015: Like Father, Like Son – Pete Alwinson – Jesus taught us to call God “Our Father…” But what kind of father is he? The answer to that question isn’t just about who God is. It’s about who we are too. Join Pete Alwinson on Steve Brown, Etc. for a discussion of his new book, Like Father, Like Son: How Knowing God as Father Changes Men. Find your true identity as God’s love frees you to love the way he loves you! Pete Alwinson is Key Life’s men’s ministry expert. He was a pastor for 30 years and has also served as an adjunct professor at Reformed Theological Seminary. Pete speaks regularly for Key Life and Man in the Mirror.
  • 2 November 2015: Messy Grace – Caleb Kaltenbach – When Caleb Kaltenbach was two years old, his mom and dad got divorced and came out of the closet. Caleb grew up going to gay pride events and seeing the hatred of extremist Christians directed at his family. Then, at the age of 16, Caleb joined the “enemy.” He became a Christian… and ultimately a pastor. Join Caleb Kaltenbach on Steve Brown, Etc. for a discussion of his book Messy Grace: How a Pastor with Gay Parents Learned to Love Others Without Sacrificing Conviction. This is a story you don’t want to miss. Caleb is lead pastor at Discovery Church, Simi Valley, CA. He speaks widely on faith, reconciliation, and sexual diversity to people on all sides of the LGBT issue.

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